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		<title>By: Every Square Inch</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Every Square Inch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating post.  I think both models - donation driven as well as revenue driven approaches are valid.  Your choice may depend on a number of parameters.  

In terms of ads, I think it&#039;s a very inefficient way to drive revenue unless you have a very large readership.   Pop up ads will turn off a lot of readers...clickthrough ads are more acceptable.  I think partnerships and creative affinity programs can be more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating post.  I think both models &#8211; donation driven as well as revenue driven approaches are valid.  Your choice may depend on a number of parameters.  </p>
<p>In terms of ads, I think it&#8217;s a very inefficient way to drive revenue unless you have a very large readership.   Pop up ads will turn off a lot of readers&#8230;clickthrough ads are more acceptable.  I think partnerships and creative affinity programs can be more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Goodyear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I hear you. We do not enter in partnerships lightly--and in fact, the only one we really devote much time or resources to is our partnership with Christianity Today at FaithInTheWorkplace.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I hear you. We do not enter in partnerships lightly&#8211;and in fact, the only one we really devote much time or resources to is our partnership with Christianity Today at FaithInTheWorkplace.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus,
   Forgot to mention that if you did consider partnering with Salem Networks your content would most likely fit in under their &quot;Careers&quot; channel.
  Just sayin&#039; because although consolidation and economy of scale has its advantages too often independence of thought and diversity of opinion die off quickly after a merger. You really have to weigh the pros and cons and who ultimately calls the shots.
  -Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,<br />
   Forgot to mention that if you did consider partnering with Salem Networks your content would most likely fit in under their &#8220;Careers&#8221; channel.<br />
  Just sayin&#8217; because although consolidation and economy of scale has its advantages too often independence of thought and diversity of opinion die off quickly after a merger. You really have to weigh the pros and cons and who ultimately calls the shots.<br />
  -Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus,
   My intent was to show Salem and Crosswalk.com as a viable model to perhaps emulate but not partner with. 
   Let me explain.
   Whenever I hold something up as an example I&#039;m harkening back to my business management courses in college where I learned the history of automobile manufacturing.
   Seem the Japanese learned the art by first studying who they considered the most successful model - U.S. Manufacturers. Then the Japanese took another step to see how they could improve upon the process and, well, you know who the most successful manufacturers are now.
   Likewise, I look to the successes in a field of endeavor and try to think how their model can be improved/adopted to meet a group&#039;s goals.
   Nothing original there except in creativity of trying to come up with a method proving more successful than the original model - usually by tweaking it.
   To me, it seems the Salem Network is a successful model of communication via the web and I mentioned it because I go there almost every day to read a devotional and/or other articles and blogs.
   -Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,<br />
   My intent was to show Salem and Crosswalk.com as a viable model to perhaps emulate but not partner with.<br />
   Let me explain.<br />
   Whenever I hold something up as an example I&#8217;m harkening back to my business management courses in college where I learned the history of automobile manufacturing.<br />
   Seem the Japanese learned the art by first studying who they considered the most successful model &#8211; U.S. Manufacturers. Then the Japanese took another step to see how they could improve upon the process and, well, you know who the most successful manufacturers are now.<br />
   Likewise, I look to the successes in a field of endeavor and try to think how their model can be improved/adopted to meet a group&#8217;s goals.<br />
   Nothing original there except in creativity of trying to come up with a method proving more successful than the original model &#8211; usually by tweaking it.<br />
   To me, it seems the Salem Network is a successful model of communication via the web and I mentioned it because I go there almost every day to read a devotional and/or other articles and blogs.<br />
   -Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley J Moore</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley J Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am new to the online blogosphere and really haven&#039;t thought much about the sustainable business models, but I have absolutely no problems seeing ads on the site. Hey, you guys gotta pay the bills. I get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to the online blogosphere and really haven&#8217;t thought much about the sustainable business models, but I have absolutely no problems seeing ads on the site. Hey, you guys gotta pay the bills. I get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Goodyear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I want to reassure everyone that the blog network if healthy and secure for the forseeable future. That doesn&#039;t mean we should rest on our laurels. Which is why Chris and I talked about him writing this post.

Now to think through each comment:

Sam, are you saying that we should consider seeking a partnership between Salem Network and Crosswalk.com? That is a really interesting idea.

Monica, I agree that ads don&#039;t scare me at all. On the other hand, I also worry that they aren&#039;t a very reliable income strategy--even for breaking even.

Robert, we prefer to think of this as putting our cards on the table--but you can think about worm analogies if that&#039;s your preference. : )  If we went the ad route, it would probably be to sell banners to interested groups. Or have them sponsor posts. Something more organic like that. This is all very new for us. We&#039;re really in the strategy stages at this point.

L.L., we&#039;re definitely working here. We&#039;re living too, I think. And we&#039;re exploring ways to be non-profit entrepreneurs while we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I want to reassure everyone that the blog network if healthy and secure for the forseeable future. That doesn&#8217;t mean we should rest on our laurels. Which is why Chris and I talked about him writing this post.</p>
<p>Now to think through each comment:</p>
<p>Sam, are you saying that we should consider seeking a partnership between Salem Network and Crosswalk.com? That is a really interesting idea.</p>
<p>Monica, I agree that ads don&#8217;t scare me at all. On the other hand, I also worry that they aren&#8217;t a very reliable income strategy&#8211;even for breaking even.</p>
<p>Robert, we prefer to think of this as putting our cards on the table&#8211;but you can think about worm analogies if that&#8217;s your preference. : )  If we went the ad route, it would probably be to sell banners to interested groups. Or have them sponsor posts. Something more organic like that. This is all very new for us. We&#8217;re really in the strategy stages at this point.</p>
<p>L.L., we&#8217;re definitely working here. We&#8217;re living too, I think. And we&#8217;re exploring ways to be non-profit entrepreneurs while we do.</p>
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		<title>By: L.L. Barkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.L. Barkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind appropriate ads. And I don&#039;t MIND them either. Which is to say I don&#039;t pay attention. But anyone who&#039;s been in advertising understands that visual familiarity with a product or service is part of the whole picture. I may not MIND the ads, but they are subliminally entering my mind.

So. Do what you need to do. We all work for a living. (Well, some of us are &quot;kept&quot;, but not many.) Seems to me that entities like the High Calling Blogs might need to &quot;work for a living&quot; too. Whatever that needs to look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind appropriate ads. And I don&#8217;t MIND them either. Which is to say I don&#8217;t pay attention. But anyone who&#8217;s been in advertising understands that visual familiarity with a product or service is part of the whole picture. I may not MIND the ads, but they are subliminally entering my mind.</p>
<p>So. Do what you need to do. We all work for a living. (Well, some of us are &#8220;kept&#8221;, but not many.) Seems to me that entities like the High Calling Blogs might need to &#8220;work for a living&#8221; too. Whatever that needs to look like.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cree</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, Thanks for the well thought out responses. I&#039;ve seen some humorous contextual ads too, like ads for apposing candidates on political sites.

I&#039;ll sometimes click on ads on an especially interesting blog post as much to &quot;tip&quot; the author as my interest in what the add is selling. I figure everyone wins when I do that.

Monica &amp; Robert, They’re all good questions. You’re both spot on about click throughs. Bloggers and users of social media sites tend to be much more ad blind than other internet users. Facebook, for example, is struggling with that very thing.

Obviously many things that we could do to generate revenue here are off the table at the start because they simply don’t align with the vision and values of HighCallingBlogs.com and the non-profit behind us.

And I completely agree with you, Robert, on the challenge of filtering out the junk from the quality goods and services that are out there.

Personally I struggle with many non-profit radio &amp; TV stations (NPR, PBS for example, as well as some Christian stations) that “don’t have advertising” but have lots of long announcements telling all about businesses that have made “donations,” usually with the expectation of announcement airtime. To me it seems a lot like for-profit stations, just with different terminology.

So are y&#039;all saying that you wouldn’t mind ads as much on a faith based site if they were for top quality goods and services and not for low quality things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, Thanks for the well thought out responses. I&#8217;ve seen some humorous contextual ads too, like ads for apposing candidates on political sites.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll sometimes click on ads on an especially interesting blog post as much to &#8220;tip&#8221; the author as my interest in what the add is selling. I figure everyone wins when I do that.</p>
<p>Monica &amp; Robert, They’re all good questions. You’re both spot on about click throughs. Bloggers and users of social media sites tend to be much more ad blind than other internet users. Facebook, for example, is struggling with that very thing.</p>
<p>Obviously many things that we could do to generate revenue here are off the table at the start because they simply don’t align with the vision and values of HighCallingBlogs.com and the non-profit behind us.</p>
<p>And I completely agree with you, Robert, on the challenge of filtering out the junk from the quality goods and services that are out there.</p>
<p>Personally I struggle with many non-profit radio &amp; TV stations (NPR, PBS for example, as well as some Christian stations) that “don’t have advertising” but have lots of long announcements telling all about businesses that have made “donations,” usually with the expectation of announcement airtime. To me it seems a lot like for-profit stations, just with different terminology.</p>
<p>So are y&#8217;all saying that you wouldn’t mind ads as much on a faith based site if they were for top quality goods and services and not for low quality things?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hruzek</title>
		<link>http://highcallingblogs.com/275/blog-network-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hruzek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh, Chris! Can open; worms everywhere! :-O

Personally, I have yet to EVER click on any blog&#039;s ad. I just don&#039;t care about &#039;em - to the point I hardly even notice them now. I&#039;m focused on either looking at the content, or searching for a specific bit of info, or whatever. I&#039;ve often wondered how many others there are like that.

I know, from reading, that &quot;click-through&quot; rates are pretty small in general. I suppose if the site was more business oriented, such as a photography site, then it makes sense to have photo-related ads. But I&#039;ve yet to click on a single one. Ever. Does that make me weird? Or typical?

But ads on a Christian Blog Network? Augh! Plagues of locusts! Hordes of frogs! Fire from Heaven! A sign of the Apocalypse!

Well, maybe not.

No, I&#039;ve often wondered about this myself. On the one hand, there&#039;s an awful lot of, well, awful Christian-oriented stuff out there. Just peruse any Christian Book Store and you can&#039;t help but see all the cheap junk available. (Speaking for myself, of course.) I can&#039; t help but be turned off by it.

But on the other hand, there are plenty of solid Christian-oriented goods and services that ARE valuable and need advertising just like any other product. Then there are the goods and services that aren&#039;t overtly Christian, just maybe owned or run by Christian folks. I believe they deserve a shot at success just like anybody.

So how DO you guys plan to make HigherCallings self-sustaining? It&#039;s something I&#039;ve wondered from the start. On the one hand, depending on the generosity of others seems to me to almost guarantee mediocrity as money gets tight. But on the other hand, you certainly don&#039;t want folks to feel like they CAN&#039;T participate or even contribute. Christian radio works just fine for the most part, I think, on listener generosity.

An interesting conundrum, Chris. I&#039;m looking forward to finding out the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh, Chris! Can open; worms everywhere! :-O</p>
<p>Personally, I have yet to EVER click on any blog&#8217;s ad. I just don&#8217;t care about &#8216;em &#8211; to the point I hardly even notice them now. I&#8217;m focused on either looking at the content, or searching for a specific bit of info, or whatever. I&#8217;ve often wondered how many others there are like that.</p>
<p>I know, from reading, that &#8220;click-through&#8221; rates are pretty small in general. I suppose if the site was more business oriented, such as a photography site, then it makes sense to have photo-related ads. But I&#8217;ve yet to click on a single one. Ever. Does that make me weird? Or typical?</p>
<p>But ads on a Christian Blog Network? Augh! Plagues of locusts! Hordes of frogs! Fire from Heaven! A sign of the Apocalypse!</p>
<p>Well, maybe not.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;ve often wondered about this myself. On the one hand, there&#8217;s an awful lot of, well, awful Christian-oriented stuff out there. Just peruse any Christian Book Store and you can&#8217;t help but see all the cheap junk available. (Speaking for myself, of course.) I can&#8217; t help but be turned off by it.</p>
<p>But on the other hand, there are plenty of solid Christian-oriented goods and services that ARE valuable and need advertising just like any other product. Then there are the goods and services that aren&#8217;t overtly Christian, just maybe owned or run by Christian folks. I believe they deserve a shot at success just like anybody.</p>
<p>So how DO you guys plan to make HigherCallings self-sustaining? It&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve wondered from the start. On the one hand, depending on the generosity of others seems to me to almost guarantee mediocrity as money gets tight. But on the other hand, you certainly don&#8217;t want folks to feel like they CAN&#8217;T participate or even contribute. Christian radio works just fine for the most part, I think, on listener generosity.</p>
<p>An interesting conundrum, Chris. I&#8217;m looking forward to finding out the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica @ Paper Bridges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica @ Paper Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind ads, as long as the content is okay. 

I can&#039;t recall seeing ads on a faith site. Maybe I go to the wrong ones. Again, not a problem. 

Ads are fine for a non-profit to keep afloat, I think.  

Is it because I&#039;m a blogger and understand the need for ads? I wonder if I would feel differently if just a regular web user?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind ads, as long as the content is okay. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t recall seeing ads on a faith site. Maybe I go to the wrong ones. Again, not a problem. </p>
<p>Ads are fine for a non-profit to keep afloat, I think.  </p>
<p>Is it because I&#8217;m a blogger and understand the need for ads? I wonder if I would feel differently if just a regular web user?</p>
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