Amy, I see the distinction between judging (as “discernment” – e.g. “The Sons of Isaachar knew the times and knew what they should do.”) and being judgmental. Perhaps it’s a matter of semantics, but your good reminder about humility and living under grace says that they are, indeed, different.

Sounds like Laura’s students could use a little more of the former and a little less of the latter. (Maybe I should attend, too!)

Isn’t the point of discernment to judge? Be it cultural relevance, Biblical standard, or as simple as whether or not this music is some you would/could recommend? Not being judgemental in terms of passing ultimate judgement on another person but being aware of the content and context of our lives so as to live what we say we believe. Understanding that as long as the church on earth is made up of those of us with feet of clay we will be bound to tread more heavily than we should. And thereby living as those who are indeed under grace.

Megan, I liked your comment and Jennifer’s for different reasons. Not sure what you meant by “accurate critique of the church,” but it made me think of the book, unChristian, by David Kinnaman. Familiar with it?

Laura, a music war! Sounds like the perfect scenario for a discussion or series of discussions on cultural discernment. Where do you think such a series could go?

But they keep coming back.

These kids also listen to some pretty R-rated secular music. When I told them that the guys in the Fray are Christians they said, “They don’t sound like it.” I almost laughed out loud. Maybe I did.

I’ll have to play this song for my kids. I think they might get it.